(Sorry to rant again about pointless Sonic crap again, but I just got to vent, I don't care if anyone reads this, or not.)
I hate to sound like another "whiny Sonic fan," but I got to say I'm getting really tired of this recent drama about "how the SatA.M. characters treated" in the Sonic comic going on in the Sonic-fanbase on DeviantArt. It seems lately unfortunately most of the "drama" on DA surrounding Sonic is not coming from the Sega game-purists, but now the SatA.M.-purists, and Sally-fans.
I'm a SatA.M., and Sally-fan to, but even I'm getting sick of all this witch-hunting.
I keep seeing SatA.M./Sally fans demonizing Sega/Sonic Team, or Sega of Japan in general for not replacing the Sega game cast with the SatA.M. characters, or not regarding the SatA.M. canon enough in their games for the past 20 years, (yet the Swatbots were referenced in "Sonic Chronicles") or blame them for why SatA.M. didn't get a third season, (there were actually numerous reasons for that, none of them having to do with Sega, ask me if you wish to know what they are) among other things. Even if some of it's partially true, I think part of it is due to their own fan-paranoia, biases, and speculation.
If Sega truely hated SatA.M. as you guys claim, why do they keep allowing DVDs of it to be released? (I saw a few in my local store even the other day.) Or allow them the characters from SatA.M. to continue appearing in the Archie Comic series? They could easily tell Ian Flynn (the current head-writer) and Paul Kaminski (the editor) to get rid of them, yet they haven't, as they have no reason to. Not to mention Sega were the ones who kept Ken Penders from killing-off Sally.
Also, I get tired of hearing fans accuse writer Ian Flynn (of the Archie Sonic series, and Megaman comics) every day of hating SatA.M., or Sally, or hating whatever, yet he's tried to state several times already he actually does like them. (Heck, Sally-haters, or SonAmy die-hards used to accuse him of favoring Sally over every other character ironically.) Just because he had her roboticized for a year, (granted he wanted to wrap it up quicker, but then the Megaman crossover came about, which Capcom & Sega wanted to do, so it got pushed back a bit, and the Penders' situation complicated matters to) and "weaponized/upgraded" by Eggman, but that doesn't mean he "hates" Sally, nor the other SatA.M. characters...
If Ian truely hates Sally, and the other SatA.M. characters (Antoine, Bunnie, Rotor, Nicole, Naugus, ect.) then why has he used them so frequently in the past 8 years? He's had plenty of good opportunities to get rid of them, (like when Knothole was destroyed in #175, and the recent genesis waves, and such) and if you're going to claim, "He won't get rid of them, 'cause he knows the fans will freak, so he has them 'suffer' instead, 'cuz he hates them, and is so evilz!"
then you're just kidding yourself. Did you never see any issue before #230 when Sally was roboticized? Also, if that is the case, then doesn't that prove he puts what the fans want above what he wants?
Ian has stated he likes SatA.M., and it's characters, and stated he wants to continue to "preserve" them in the book, and while you guys make yourselves convinced that ever sense issue #230 he's "had it out to them," or "wants them to suffer," what about all of the bad things he had happened to the game characters, or Archie-exclusive characters in his past 8 years of writing? What about all the GOOD things he had happen to them all, as well? The comic isn't all "doom, and gloom" as you claim. Harry Potter was in more "hopeless" situations then these.
Like Knuckles being turned into Enerjak, losing his people, losing his father, suffering emotional issues, and such. (All while Ian is writing.) Why aren't you guys accusing him of hating Knux to? (And before you start, Ian has stated he loves Knuckles, and even Ken Penders' Knuckles comic series.
I've BEEN in that boat before, and I've been accused of hating Sally, Amy, and the exact same things Ian has been accused of before by Sonic-fans. So I know what it's like. Only Ian knows what he likes/dislike, and it's unfair of you guys to try to dictate that for other people. Would you like being constantly accused of hating Sally, and stuff to, even though you like them?
Think about it, and grow up.
It's like you guys ignore all of that stuff, and pay only attention to the SatA.M. characters, 'cause that's all you care about. You don't seem to care about the game cast, or non-SatA.M. characters at all...
One of the reasons I stated I prefer the comics over SatA.M. is because it has some things/characters/stories from the games mixed in with the SatA.M. canon, with some of it's original things to, and that's why I like the comic. I don't want it to be exclusively just game canon stuff, or SatA.M. canon stuff as that would just limit the story possibilities to that of said canon. I like having all those things in the comic, why should they have to be nothing but either "game canon stuff," or "SatA.M. canon stuff?" I like both, so I like having both in the comic. If all you enjoy is one thing, or the other, then you're not enjoying the entire comic. (To quote Ian, "Enjoy the entire cookie, not just the chips.") And if you hate the comic, why follow it so religiously?
...But hey, if you want the comic to be nothing, but game-adaptions, or stories about Sonic & Co. sneaking into Robotnik's city, and nothing else ever happening, then so be it.
For the past 8 years Ian has gradually repaired Sally & Sonic's friendship after their rocky break-up, and the "slap heard 'round the word." Before Ian came on board Sally & Sonic couldn't even talk to each other at that point. (Not to mention issue #222 was a huge SonSal tease.)
He's also the one who even had her rejoin the Freedom Fighters, instead of just mope around Castle Acorn, and do nothing like back when Karl Bollers was writing. (Heck, Karl practically tried to replace her with his character Mina Mongoose at one point, having her appear more often then Sally, yet I never see anyone accuse him of "hating Sally." Heck, Karl's the one who wrote the controversial "slap" #134 issue you all hate. I'm NOT saying Karl is, or isn't biased against Sally, as I don't know him, I'm just making a comparison. It seems biased you only accuse Ian of being biased lately, but hardly ever Penders, or Bollers, and honestly I think Ian has more knowledge of the Sonic franchise, and fanbase then they do.) All that alone doesn't convince Ian is some evil "Sally-hater."
I also find it funny fans are accusing Ian of not only "hating" Sally, but "Loving Amy/SonAmy, and claiming he's trying to make SonAmy" canon. (Honestly, I think Ian's put more SonSal-teases, then SonAmy teases looking back at all my issues.)
Two years ago, Amy fans used to always accuse Ian of the exact opposite, of hating Amy, and prefering Sally, and such. So which is he, guys?
In fact, ironically before issue #230 (when Sally was roboticized) people who hate the comic, and Sally used to accuse Ian Flynn of favoring Sally over every other character, and claiming he made her a "Mary-Su," made her "perfect," and "made the comic revolve around her," and such... (Which I think is B.S. to BTW, so I'm not agreeing with the Sally-haters.) I used to see that constantly from Sally-haters, but then they shut-up finally when she got roboticized, finally proving Sally isn't a "Mary-Su who always gets her way, and can never have anything bad happen to her" like they claimed... (Or maybe they just "grew-up.")
So maybe having that happen to her was a "good thing" in some ways, (Didn't kill Uncle Chuck, Sonic, Knuckles, Lupe, or Robotnik when they got roboticized.) plus her "sacrificing" herself to the roboticizer, to save everyone she cares about, and willing to go through with it shows how noble she is, and redeemed her character to some fans. (After her being a "bitch" back in the Karl Bollers days.)
...Yet, now all of a sudden, it's the opposite with the Sally-haters being quiet, and the Sally-fans instead being the ones accusing him of hating her, just 'cause she got roboticized for a year? I don't get it... It's making Sally-fans look overly-protective of her, and bad you don't seem to realize.
Amy-fans haven't even been this vocal lately.
So you see, no matter what Ian does with Sally, one half of the fanbase gets butthurt, (if you'll excuse the expression) and will never be pleased. I hate to say this as a Sally-fan myself, but I honestly wouldn't blame Ian if he did kill her off, as he can't do anything with her without being accused of being either a "Amy-hater/SonSal-whore/Sally/SatA.M.-fanboy,"
or a "Sally-hater/SonAmy-whore/Amy/Sega-fanboy!"
He can't win with either Sally fans, or Sally-haters...
(Or Amy-fans, and Amy-haters for that matter.)
Let me clarify again, that I DON'T CARE if people hate the comic, (I used to hate it, as well, so I always find it funny when people call me a "Archie/Ian fanboy") what I don't like is people spreading slander, and false information about it, and Ian. (Heck, I saw somebody complain about Lupe being "Legionized" which never even happened.) As well as being to overly-protective of their favorite characters like Sally to the point where they can't even get a paper-cut without going, "Oh the writer must hate 'em!"
From my experiences with Ian he isn't really biased either way, and stated he doesn't let his personal opinions influence how he writes the book. It's proven if you look at the comic series in general. He said he didn't like the Sonic'2006 game, yet still uses Silver in the comic. (And before you ask, Sega wouldn't let them do a full Sonic'06 story adaption.)
He said he doesn't like Marine the raccoon, but admits she's "fun to write for" due to her sillyness. He even said wasn't a fan of Drago wolf, (like most people, sense Drago was a douche) yet made him into a bigger threat/villain in one 2-parter arc.
Just because you Sonic fans in general are biased one way, or the other, doesn't mean Ian, or everyone else is... I wouldn't be surprised if people started accusing me of being a "SatA.M.-hater" after making this journal, yet ask my friends how much I used to "geek-out" about that show.
My point overall all is, you're all not improving the comic with all this crap, but instead giving SatA.M., and Sally-fans a bad reputation. Even a few of my SatA.M./Archie-fan friends agree.
I'm sorry for making such a long rants, I don't really want to debate this, (Honestly, I'm getting sick of debating about a blue hedge-rodent) but I think you SatA.M. fans have gotten way to overly-protective of Sally, and the other "Freedom Fighters." I understand the passion for them, and to want to see them treated "fairly," and to want them to still be around, but Ian said they aren't going anywhere, and it seems most of the "problems" the team had are getting resolved, (even if unfortunately very swift due to this "semi-reboot," the Penders fiasco forced upon the series) so why continue to complain, or demonize him, the comic, and Sega?
Oh that's right, because Sally wears clothes now, and the other characters got "new looks to," and if they don't look the same as they did in 1994, then they suddenly aren't the same characters you loved, right? Oy vey... (It's the "green-eyes in Sonic 4" controversy all over again.)
Bad things happened to her in SatA.M., as well. (Getting captured, getting nearly roboticized, or nearly-killed, having to put up with Sonic's snarkyness, and stuff.)
The only differance is the comics are an ongoing story, while the show had every problem get rapped up in 20 minutes, or less. Maybe that works for a TV show, but if the comic did that, and fixed every problem, or plot-point in one issue or less, it would get stale, repetitive, and boring, and there'd be no material for newer stories/issues.
Just because a writer has something bad happen to a character doesn't mean they "hate them," or "want them to suffer." If that's the case then Ian, Ken Penders, Karl Bollers, and heck even Ben Hurst, and the other comic, or SatA.M. writers must really hate Sally, Sonic, and every other character nearly to...
But it's no matter what points I make I can't convince any of you otherwise, so I don't know why I even bother debating this with any of you, no offense.
I hate to say it, but it's getting a bit hard to respect SatA.M./Sally fans when I can't go to one SatA.M. fanart piece without seeing a passive-aggressive remark about Ian, Sega, or the comics lately, (I've been trying my best not to bug anyone about it, and trying to be more quiet about the comic lately, as honestly debating it just makes me unhappy) and I hate to say that.
I'm getting sick of all this drama on DA, and Sonic fans constantly blaming Sega/Archie/Ian for why they can't personally enjoy anything from the Sonic series not from the '90s, just because it's not like the version they "grew up" with.
Ian is not a "perfect" writer, and I think he could've done some things better, (especially when introducing the semi-reboot) but he's NOT "the devil" either, but honestly, I think he's one of the least biased writers we've had, and I'll take his work then the previous writers, or most fanfic writers. I don't love every issue he's written, but I don't care if that makes me an "Ian-fanboy."
I'm not happy about some of the changes to the comic either, and how they dropped some plot-points to the comic, and "quickly" fixed 'em, (thanks to the Penders' copyright fiasco) but frankly, I'm just glad the SatA.M. characters are still going to be around, (even with the "controversial" redesigns) and honestly I never even thought they would get rid of them in the first place, even when Sally was roboticized, and Antoine was put in a coma.
I've been trying to tell people that, yet nobody never listen to me, and just continue fear-mongering, and demonizing Sega/Archie/Ian, and how we need to "rebel," and bitch about them all the time in order to make the Sonic series "better," or witch-hunt people who "supposedly" don't like SatA.M./Sally...
You're not making the Sonic series better, you're making the Sonic fandom worse, and even MORE hate-filled then it already is. You're turning people OFF Sonic, and SatA.M., the things you claim to be passionate about.
If this keeps up, I'm afraid you SatA.M.-fans, and Sally-fans might lose me as a fellow SatA.M./Sally fan, I'm sorry to say.
I'm THAT fucking sick of it... (OMG Skunky said the "EF word!")
I guess I'm getting to old to be that overly-obsessed with a blue hedgehog, or red-headed chipmunk princess, and tired of the fan-drama constantly on DA.